Comments on: Jesus rejected the American dream http://www.epicguide.com/2006/02/20/jesus-rejected-the-american-dream/ Mostly Harmless Thu, 09 Sep 2010 17:16:26 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: jon http://www.epicguide.com/2006/02/20/jesus-rejected-the-american-dream/comment-page-1/#comment-34 jon Mon, 20 Feb 2006 20:52:56 +0000 http://www.epicguide.com/2006/02/20/jesus-rejected-the-american-dream/#comment-34 Jeremy, on your noted verse, I picked up on, "You cannot serve both God and Money". I think one part of the American Dream is that you can serve God on his terms in America, but not on secular American terms at the same time. I agree the the Christian view of the “American Way” has been crushed in modern times, however, we still control our lives in America and can still choose our path, whether Godly or culturally. I agree that the American dream is not very Godly, it is mostly selfish. We need to do more to protect our choice of lifestyle. Jeremy, on your noted verse, I picked up on, “You cannot serve both God and Money”. I think one part of the American Dream is that you can serve God on his terms in America, but not on secular American terms at the same time. I agree the the Christian view of the “American Way” has been crushed in modern times, however, we still control our lives in America and can still choose our path, whether Godly or culturally. I agree that the American dream is not very Godly, it is mostly selfish. We need to do more to protect our choice of lifestyle.

]]> By: Jeremy http://www.epicguide.com/2006/02/20/jesus-rejected-the-american-dream/comment-page-1/#comment-33 Jeremy Mon, 20 Feb 2006 18:55:09 +0000 http://www.epicguide.com/2006/02/20/jesus-rejected-the-american-dream/#comment-33 Obviously America wasn't around then. The point was to say that the American Dream is specifically not Christian. I'm completely willing to bash part of a culture that forces values and levels of "success" on its members and then alienates both the ones for who reject them and those for whom those achievements are not possible. Just because something promotes "hard work" doesn't mean it's good. The problem is that the motivation for "hard work" in the American dream is for personal prosperity and financial security. The motivation for "hard work" in scriptures is eternal prosperity. I never said we all had to live like Jesus, I just pointed out some consistent themes in scripture that contradict the values of the American Dream. Don't be offended, Jesus isn't comfortable. Think about the rich young ruler Mark 10. Obviously America wasn’t around then. The point was to say that the American Dream is specifically not Christian.

I’m completely willing to bash part of a culture that forces values and levels of “success” on its members and then alienates both the ones for who reject them and those for whom those achievements are not possible.

Just because something promotes “hard work” doesn’t mean it’s good. The problem is that the motivation for “hard work” in the American dream is for personal prosperity and financial security. The motivation for “hard work” in scriptures is eternal prosperity.

I never said we all had to live like Jesus, I just pointed out some consistent themes in scripture that contradict the values of the American Dream.

Don’t be offended, Jesus isn’t comfortable. Think about the rich young ruler Mark 10.

]]> By: Scott http://www.epicguide.com/2006/02/20/jesus-rejected-the-american-dream/comment-page-1/#comment-32 Scott Mon, 20 Feb 2006 18:25:33 +0000 http://www.epicguide.com/2006/02/20/jesus-rejected-the-american-dream/#comment-32 You freaking liberal. There was no american dream to reject, america wasnt around. The American dream is nothing more than cultural tradition. American's want a house with a white picket fence, a dog and 2.5 children because there is an inharent hapiness that comes with preserving tradition. American Indians wanted to be one with nature and to preserve their traditions too; They were trying to acheive the Indian Dream. You don't have to live or try to achieve the American Dream, but don't bash it; its part of American culture. Heres one good thing the pursuit of the American Dream does: It promotes hard work, we dont take siestas in America, we work hard just to get by, and as a result, we have acheived a level of prosperty, nationwide, that has never been seen in history. I'm pretty sure hard work isnt frowned upon by the Bible. Christains are called upon to follow Jesus's example, but I don't think that means we have to live his same lifestyle . If everyone lived the way Jesus did, we would all be homeless. You freaking liberal. There was no american dream to reject, america wasnt around. The American dream is nothing more than cultural tradition. American’s want a house with a white picket fence, a dog and 2.5 children because there is an inharent hapiness that comes with preserving tradition. American Indians wanted to be one with nature and to preserve their traditions too; They were trying to acheive the Indian Dream. You don’t have to live or try to achieve the American Dream, but don’t bash it; its part of American culture.

Heres one good thing the pursuit of the American Dream does: It promotes hard work, we dont take siestas in America, we work hard just to get by, and as a result, we have acheived a level of prosperty, nationwide, that has never been seen in history. I’m pretty sure hard work isnt frowned upon by the Bible.

Christains are called upon to follow Jesus’s example, but I don’t think that means we have to live his same lifestyle . If everyone lived the way Jesus did, we would all be homeless.

]]> By: Jeremy http://www.epicguide.com/2006/02/20/jesus-rejected-the-american-dream/comment-page-1/#comment-31 Jeremy Mon, 20 Feb 2006 18:20:45 +0000 http://www.epicguide.com/2006/02/20/jesus-rejected-the-american-dream/#comment-31 Things aren't always so clear, Luke 16. Things aren’t always so clear, Luke 16.

]]> By: jon http://www.epicguide.com/2006/02/20/jesus-rejected-the-american-dream/comment-page-1/#comment-30 jon Mon, 20 Feb 2006 18:04:12 +0000 http://www.epicguide.com/2006/02/20/jesus-rejected-the-american-dream/#comment-30 All you need for the American Dream is; designer human growth hormone in cream form, just like Barry Bonds. Then you'll be able to get to the top!! http://www.epicguide.com/2006/02/19/barry-bonds-good-bye/ Oh, my bad, you're right, Jesus doesn't like cheaters, and Bonds is a cheater. It is hard for average Joe in America. All you need for the American Dream is; designer human growth hormone in cream form, just like Barry Bonds. Then you’ll be able to get to the top!! http://www.epicguide.com/2006/02/19/barry-bonds-good-bye/

Oh, my bad, you’re right, Jesus doesn’t like cheaters, and Bonds is a cheater. It is hard for average Joe in America.

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