I saw this post on snops.com- Military Deaths. And while I am beginning to notice an liberal bias in the writing on snopes in terms of their explanations- especially in dealing with Obama, the fact is they do provide stable facts to look at.
This is the latest tidbit I saw on military deaths.
| Year |
President |
Deaths |
Total during presidency |
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| 1980 |
Jimmy Carter |
2,392 |
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N/A |
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|
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| 1981 |
Ronald Reagan |
2,380 |
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| 1982 |
Ronald Reagan |
2,319 |
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| 1983 |
Ronald Reagan |
2,465 |
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| 1984 |
Ronald Reagan |
1,999 |
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| 1985 |
Ronald Reagan |
2,252 |
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| 1986 |
Ronald Reagan |
1,984 |
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| 1987 |
Ronald Reagan |
1,983 |
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| 1988 |
Ronald Reagan |
1,819 |
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|
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17,201 |
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|
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| 1989 |
George H.W. Bush |
1,636 |
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| 1990 |
George H.W. Bush |
1,507 |
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| 1991 |
George H.W. Bush |
1,787 |
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| 1992 |
George H.W. Bush |
1,293 |
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6,223 |
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|
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| 1993 |
Bill Clinton |
1,213 |
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| 1994 |
Bill Clinton |
1,075 |
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| 1995 |
Bill Clinton |
1,040 |
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| 1996 |
Bill Clinton |
974 |
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| 1997 |
Bill Clinton |
817 |
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| 1998 |
Bill Clinton |
827 |
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| 1999 |
Bill Clinton |
796 |
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| 2000 |
Bill Clinton |
758 |
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7,500 |
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|
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| 2001 |
George W. Bush |
891 |
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| 2002 |
George W. Bush |
999 |
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| 2003 |
George W. Bush |
1,228 |
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| 2004 |
George W. Bush |
1,874 |
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| 2005 |
George W. Bush |
1,942 |
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| 2006 |
George W. Bush |
1,858 |
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8,792 |
So what do I find interesting about this?
The fact is, liberals have been giving crap about how terrible the Iraq war is. How many soldiers have died. But when looking at the numbers, you can see how bad it actually is, or isn’t (relatively speaking). During Clintons presidency, whose only form of ground combat included pulling out of Somalia, has a total of 7,500 in eight years. Now compare this to the presidency of George W. Bush, who has been involved in two ground wars that have been going on for the majority of his presidency. The grand total of military deaths is 8,792 in six years. Lets be fair and add the deaths of 2007 and 2008 according to Snopes. In 2007, the war deaths in the wars were 1,014. So far the know deaths in 2008 is 100 at the end of March. Multiply that number to give an estimate for the whole year, we get 400 deaths in 2008. While this number is most likely going to be lower than the true number, we will work with what we got.
The estimated grand total deaths for W, will be 10,206. Lets compare this number to Clinton. 10,206 compared to 7,500 shows that the amount of military deaths during Clinton’s reign is about a 73% the amount of W Bush’s reign. While that is a lot, you need to realize that Clinton’s deaths happened in PEACE TIME, whereas Bush’s deaths happened in a time of MULTIPLE WARS. Its not too shabby for W Bush.
When looking at the table, we can see the Bush senior had 6,223 in four years- if it was eight years it would be estimated at 12,446- that is 2,000 more deaths than W, during peace time (minus the 1st Iraq ass kicking), yet Bush senior never got any crap for it. During Regan’s legacy there were 17,201 deaths, a huge amount of military deaths. Granted Regan was noted for constantly kicking crap and being a badass, his presidency was not known for being in a continuous combat war (the cold war doesn’t count). The point I’m making again? Reagan didn’t get crap.
Carter had over 2000 deaths in one year, he was a freaking PACIFIST do nothing, yet he had more military deaths in one year than any one-year-totals for W Bush. HE GETS NO CRAP!
Lets compare the American casualties of the Iraq war to other wars according to Wikipedia. 116,708 in the one year the US fought in WW1. 416,800 in the four years the US was involved in WW2. And the over 400,000 dead in the Korean War. 58,217 in the six years of Vietnam. At 4000 in the five years of the Iraq war, things don’t look so bad.
Bush has done a lot of things I don’t agree with. The boarders and the lack of spending control come to mind. But one thing that I think is not a blunder of his is the Iraq War. I may be going against the fray, but I don’t really care what popular opinion is, I look at the numbers.